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Comment on the future of Exeter Street Hall

Dear Prestonville,
We have lived at no. 19, next door but one to the Church Hall for over 12 years.  During that time, we have had a number of distressing occurences as a direct result of the activities in the Hall and it is important to remember in your discussion about community, that we are the community too!My husband has a disabled badge and cannot walk far.  On numerous occasions people dropping children off or picking them up from the Hall have parked in the disabled bay and not infrequently told us to f… off when we politely asked if they could move.

We have had unsupervised youths running down the middle of the road at 9pm on a Friday night (the Youth Club we believe) and daring each other to run as near as they can to on-coming cars.

We have had children and young people climbing on our wall, our fencing and our pillars.

We have had youths playing knock-down Ginger at 9pm at night – banging hard on all the doors near the Church Hall and running away.  This frightened the little old lady who lives next door to us – and we didn’t want to suffer that either.  She, as we, are also members of the community you speak of!

We could go on, but suffice to say it has not been altogether a pleasant experience to live next to the Church Hall.  We do want you to put the other side of the equation on our behalf.  In the essence of presentating a fair picture of the reality, rather than the rhetoric, this is essential.

Most importantly, the community activities (and we would argue whether the Hall is the hub of the area – it is empty most of the time, and not like a village hall which has a completely different community purpose) have only to go round the corner into the Church itself.
Nothing need be cancelled – just held there instead.  It is a vast, and again it would appear mostly empty building for a lot of the time.  Isn’t that what the Church was originally intended for? i.e. a meeting place for people of all ages (and not just for services and related gatherings).

Most worryingly, when a friend had someone knock on her door with a petition and she also asked why the community activities could not be welcomed in the Church she was told ‘we don’t want people in there, we have some valuable items there!’.

Thus we want you to make clear to people at the meeting and indeed to understand yourselves that there is a definite ‘downside’ to living near the Hall and these are only a few of the problems we’ve had.

We look forward to your confirmation that you will present a balanced picture of the pros and cons of the Hall remaining as it is and will include our email in any way that is appropriate.

Best wishes
Dr L Heath
James Carroll

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Joining the PCA Committee

The Public Meeting about the future of the Church Hall in Exeter Street is also the Prestonville Community Association’s Annual General Meeting, at which we elect the PCA’s Committee. We consider all Prestonville residents to be members of the PCA, and if you’re over 16, you have a vote.

If you’d like to join the Committee, you can stand for election at the AGM. A candidate needs to be nominated by one person and seconded by another. We can accept nominations up to the day of the meeting, though not at the meeting itself. Please email

or phone 705134.

 

If you’re interested but not sure, the AGM isn’t the only opportunity to get involved with the PCA. The Committee can co-opt up to five members in addition to the six ordinary members and four ‘officers’ (Chair, Vice-Chair, Secretary, Treasurer) we hope to elect at the AGM. And Committee meetings are open to Prestonville residents whether they’re on the committee or not
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Save Exeter Street Community Hall

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PCA Meetings – 12 and 25 January

We’ll be discussing the future of the Exeter Street Church Hall at this year’s PCA AGM, with news from the Vicar, Revd Martin Poole, and a presentation from thehallgetinvolved. It would be good to see a good turn out from the community. As always, there is room on the PCA Committee for new members.

We also discussed the Hall, and preparations for the AGM, at a committee meeting on 12 January. Here are the minutes:

PCA Minutes 12.01.12

 

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Community Carols: 6.00pm Sunday

Everyone is welcome to join in the Community Carols at 6.00 Sunday 11 December outside The Chimney House (or in the Exeter Hall if raining), followed by mulled wine and mince pies in the Hall, provided by the PCA.

 

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TheHallGetInvolved

A meeting between St. Luke’s Church and local people took place on Weds 7th December to discuss the proposed sale of Exeter Street hall. There has been strong support from residents to save the hall and over 400 signatures have been collected by volunteers in the surrounding streets.

The encouraging news from the meeting is that an opportunity does exist for the hall to remain in use for the community but time is running out.

We need your ideas, knowledge and contacts now.

Ideas – How would you like to see the Hall developed?
Knowledge – Do you have any experience of developing community buildings, or skills that could help us plan?
Contacts – We could do with advice from a reliable builder, plus legal and planning advice. Do you know people who’ve done similar things?

You can get involved by

  • visiting the facebook page for our campaign to add your thoughts.
  • sending an email to thehallgetinvolved@prestonville.org.uk with your ideas
  • coming along to the hall for a mince pie and mulled wine after the community carols on Sunday 11th Dec outside the Chimney House. Carols begin at 6pm.

 


Paul Winter

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Friends of Dyke Road Park Meeting

Dear all
Here are the minutes of our most recent meeting.  FoDRP Minutes 11.12.06
Selected highlights of our first year’s achievements:
We have raised nearly £530 in total from three community
events – Community Picnic, Dog Show, Craft Fair – and from direct donations.
£368 of that is ear-marked for expenditure on roses. 24 roses are on order, with
a further 24 to follow.
Activities planned for the New Year:
New Film Club – monthly showings of classic films in
convivial surroundings to club members. If you are interested, please get in
touch with Martin Baron via the Postblog contacts.
Monthly Work Party (third Saturday of every month), and
planting of new roses when weather is deemed appropriate.
Big Tidy Up – when weather improves and the litter gets
(even) worse
And other events still at the planning stage.
NEXT EVENT: Community Carols, 6.00pm Sunday, 11
December,
outside Chimney House Pub, followed by mulled wine and mince
pies in the Exeter Street Hall. FoDRP will be selling some homemade stocking
fillers!
With Festive Greetings
Jannet King

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A petition to preserve Exeter St. Church Hall for community use.

St Luke's Church Hall: Exeter Street

A meeting was held on Wednesday 30th November at the Chimney House to discuss the sale of St. Luke’s Church Hall and the impact it will have on the community. If you weren’t aware, the Church held a public meeting on 23rd September 2011 to announce that they would be putting the Church Hall up for informal tender.   See details:

 

The meeting on Wednesday 30th November was to organise a petition. Over the next week, if you live in the Prestonville/ Port Hall area, someone will knock on your door and ask you to sign it.  In the meantime here are the details:

 

This petition is to support the preservation of St Luke’s Church Hall as a community building by upholding the current D1 Class use status in the event of its sale. Under the Use Classes Order 1987 (as amended) D1 includes: medical and health services, creche, day nursery, day centre, public halls, exhibition halls, art galleries, non-residential education and training centres, places of worship and church halls.
We the undersigned, ask Brighton and Hove City Council to support the local residents in preserving the community use of this Church Hall in the heart of our neighbourhood.

 

Other concerns that were raised at the meeting:

- We understand that the vicar of St. Luke’s Church, Martin Poole, would like the community use of the hall to continue but we are not clear about how this can be achieved.

- Even if the D1 status is upheld initially, a developer could purchase the building and immediately close it to the Community. Within a year, the Brownies, the Youth Club, the playgroup, Zumba, the after school art club and all the children’s parties and clubs that are currently held there will have found new homes. At this point the developer will build a case around these facts and present it to the planning department with an application for change of status to allow for the building of flats/ houses. Is the Church willing to put a covenant  into the deeds of the Church Hall to stop this from happening?

- We have heard that a percentage of any future profits that are made by the initial purchaser of the Hall, from it’s resale, will go to the Church. Given that the Hall spans an area equivalent of four typical Exeter Street houses and it is not a listed building, is there anything in place to stop the building from being demolished? If not, would the vicar consider including this in the covenant?

- Here’s some approximate sums: Purchase price £250 k + Demolition £30k + Build of four town houses £80k each (yes,that’s correct) = £630k. Sale of 4 new town houses, next to a Infant and Junior school and 10 min walk to station £1.8m + PROFIT £1,170,000.

- There are instances where a developer has created a community space within a residential development as a means of negotiation. If this was on the table next to an offer that would create larger profits, which would the Church choose?
We have a small window of opportunity to influence the future for the Church Hall. If you would like more information or would like to help, or even if you just have a good idea, please contact me at

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Prestonville BIG FREEZE Scheme

So we’ve been talking about a new community scheme this winter at the PCA – a collaboration between the PCA and St Luke’s Church and something that we all felt was a good idea… but we want to know whether you think it’s a good idea too!

In a nutshell, we’re thinking that there’s people who live in the community here who could probably do with a little helping hand when the weather gets really tough with ice or snow. We also know that there’s plenty of people out there willing to muck in with a bit of good will to help others (we’ve seen you… helping cars get un-stuck and and other such selfless tasks!).

So the idea was – lets match up the people who need a hand, with the people who can offer a hand, at the right time. Pretty simple really – it will all hang on the weather.

But we do want to know what you think. There’s some leaflets coming around which are asking for your feedback and also have the St Luke’s Christmas services on the back. There are several ways you can give us your opinions about the scheme…

1) return the tear off slip to Martin Poole, St Luke’s Church, 64 Old Shoreham Road, Brighton BN1 5DD

2) Print off the form from here and do the same Prestonville _Big Freeze_ Questionnaire

3) Phone us on 01273 557772 (at St Luke’s Church)

4) E-mail us at

(we missed the “.uk” off the end of the email address we’ve printed by the way – sorry about that). You could even scan in a completed form and e-mail it back to us if you have the technical know how!

 

The most important thing is that you tell us what you think about the scheme. Give us a shout!

Richard

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photos from pumpkin carving competition

here are the photos of the pumpkins….mike

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